Is the evolving goal to prevent taking the Hammonds to prison?
You decide. You weigh-in.
Here's the link.
Evil is winning. All that takes is for good men to do nothing...
Enemies of Liberty are ruthless. To own your Liberty, you'd better come harder than your enemies..
It really doesn't matter anymore because for all intents and purposes the Republic is dead.
ReplyDeleteCitizens won't stand up for themselves and if they won't do that, there is no hope for them or what is left of our country. I'm tired of trying to convince them otherwise. I am disgusted by their laziness to even know what their heritage is, not only as an American, but as a free human being. I am disgusted with their lemming stupidity. I won't live through the worst of the tyranny. Party on.
The Oregonian is one of the most far left papers in the country. I don't know how much of this article is true, if any, pertaining to the Hammonds not wanting any kind of assistance.
ReplyDeleteSSI will have a coronary that Ryan Payne is there.
Why hasn't Stewie butted in yet? I haven't heard a word from OK's.
"Is the evolving goal to prevent taking the Hammonds to prison?"
ReplyDeleteMy assessment and answer is no, based on the schedule of 'protest activities' listed in the call out posted on the facebook organizing page of
Oregon Three Percent.
Their supposed strategy will not succeed in preventing the imprisonment of two Hammond family men.
Moreover, the bag of sopsey cancer puss has healed up enough to update SSI and deemed one of the organizers to be an "absolutely untrustworthy POS."
Without question, this explains why none of the other chest puffing, not one more inch backpeddlers and posers of patriotic purity, have intentionally failed to mention anything about the Hammond family since your initial posting. The most notable and deliberate absence of coverage is from pete/wrsa.
Obviously, the self anointed clique of the III Percent elite did not conceive of, initiate, organize, approve and control, current efforts of the operation to support the Hammond family.
Genuine patriots are going to chalk up a significant defeat on this mission.
Treasonous, traitorous, criminal and seditious communist shitbags are going to score an easy victory, on the Hammond family and their supporters.
sopsey, stewie and their quislings will orgasmically applaud and cheer this defeat in the shadowy cesspool of their white nationalist, statist, communist, post-apocalyptic circle-jerk fantasies.
As mentioned in my previous comment: The return of the pathological liar/provocateur Ryan Payne.
ReplyDelete"Militiamen, ranchers in showdown for soul of Burns."
Why the Bundys continue to trust this absolutely untrustworthy POS is beyond me. Some of my own posts from the time of the Bundy standoff:
"Discernment, or lack thereof."
"Stolen Valor: Ryan Payne Exposed as a Fraud."
"Fake Ranger sociopath becomes the new poster boy."
"Southern Preposterous Lie Center strikes again, shaping the propaganda battlefield, trying to excuse future government violence against the Bundys. (And all with the help of the sociopath Ryan Payne.)"
Posted by Dutchman6 at 1:25 PM
My assessment remains the same: How does one define Victory given the circumstances, and is it attainable given the realities on the ground?
ReplyDeleteThe only victory I could envision is that the Hammonds do not go to prison. Anything short of that is not a win. FedGov WILL NOT back down on this matter as they did at Bundy Ranch - different paradigm.
So if there is no win - is there a push? Is there a scenario in which Liberty Forces and Tyrants reach a stalemate? Not one that I can see that doesn't result in the same outcome - Hammonds go to prison. That is not a push for Liberty Forces - that is a loss, no matter how optimistically one tries to spin it.
The Hammonds will not barricade themselves in the house - they are not those people. There will be no siege forces to Flank & Spank. In my estimation, those men will walk into prison.
Hardcore reality: Liberty lost this one UNLESS there are people willing to die on this hill. I do not see such men mustering.
I see talk. I see people interjecting themselves for personal gain - not to fight for Liberty, or even for Right versus Wrong.
Remember Lexington? Arrest Warrants were in-hand for Hancock & Adams, a significant motivational factor for John Parker & Company to muster. The men on the Green meant that the King's Men would not put hands on Hancock or Adams.
Until that mettle is met by our modern Countrymen, people like the Hammonds will continue to go to prison - until they are joined by the rest of us.
Well now, pete/wrsa has finally posted
ReplyDeleteabout the Hammond family.
The posting and the comments are detestable
shit.
Fuck them.
Fuck the whole worthless lot of them.
"Remember Lexington? Arrest Warrants were in-hand for Hancock & Adams, a significant motivational factor for John Parker & Company to muster. The men on the Green meant that the King's Men would not put hands on Hancock or Adams."
ReplyDeleteBut that right there is the difference. Hancock and Adams were more than willing to be part of the fray, part of what needed to be done. Because of that, others were willing to die to help them.
The Hammonds themselves won't even fight for their own freedom and the locals are falling all over themselves to get away from anyone who might cross anyone of authority.
It's one thing to stand behind or shoulder to shoulder with someone when they are willing to fight the battle, but when they won't even stand up for themselves why should others die on that hill?
People refuse to educate themselves and use that knowledge to empower themselves to stand up for the right to be a free person, to be left alone by a evil consortium of men called "government." They would rather be led by the nose and be willing to do as told.
And she drops the mic and exits Stage Right - because there is the issue. Stand tall and others will stand with you - maybe. Do not stand, and you will surely be alone.
DeleteYou are 8 hours away from Burs Oregon. YOU can Make it by dawn. So hit it and stop trying to push others into doing what you won't.
DeleteRivitman: I have made my position clear regarding the Hammonds. There is no win for Liberty at the Hammonds unless violence is used - and the Hammonds have specifically told us - directly - they do NOT want violence.
DeletePay attention and you won't look quite so foolish when you submit a comment.
I dunno. You lay out the situation as unwinnable, then bring up historical context, and the chide people for not acting.
DeleteSo who are you blaming? The Hammond's? The locals? The Patriots en-rout or not en-rout?
The typically American trait of being slow to anger?
The contradictions are manifest.
Rivitman: The situation is unwinnable given the RoE established by the family. The only 'win' would be to thwart letting the Hammonds go to prison. That only happens 2 ways - .Gov changes its mind and strikes their sentence order, or Patriots violently interdict the surrender - something the Hammonds have expressed clearly to us DIRECTLY they do not condone.
DeleteBlame? The entire situation is a monstrous ClusterFoxtrot because petty bureaucrats abused their power.
If the Hammonds were to change their own RoE and ask for assistance to avoid going to prison by any means necessary - new ballgame. But that is not the current paradigm.
It sucks.
Will the TOC be in observance
ReplyDeleteof events?
The 2JAN16 is fast approaching.
Honestly, if I were the FEDS the
smart tactical move would be to
make a hard, brutal and vicious
arrest sooner rather than later.
Undoubtedly, they are about to easily
win another confrontation, but they
are certainly terrified that events
may escape their control and blowback
hard in their faces.
No sir - the TOC is staged 900+ miles to the east, on the eastern edge of the Redoubt. I can't see any justification for the expense in rolling it to the scene given the present circumstances.
DeleteI can't honestly say local III should attend, given the circumstances. We should all be ready to roll - but taking a defensive position and posture only to let the Bad Guys win without a fight, which is what looks like is going to happen, is the worst possible option.
Lastly, just for the record
ReplyDeleteand clarity, none of my previous
comments were directed at the
Hammond family. That would be
like berating a female rape victim
for having a vagina.
I can be an asshole, but I'm not
that big of an asshole.
No, my comments were directed
at the despicable cast of 'not one more
inchers,' statists, white nationalists
and communists hiding behind a despicable
scapegoating of the Hammond's.
A pool that was greatly enlarged (dragged
kicking and screaming into the antiseptic
of harsh sunlight) by your correctly expanded
and necessary use of IFF.
Its no wonder those same above mentioned
shitbags kicked, screamed and cursed
those (IFF) efforts as if they were watching satan
rape Mary Magdalene.