The III Percent Mission Statement: Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will
within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. ~ Thomas Jefferson
In the absence of orders, go find something Evil and kill it!
Enemies of Liberty are ruthless. To own your Liberty, you'd better come harder than your enemies..
I raised the ire (and wrinkled the pampers...) of a poser on WRSA just yesterday - or early this morning - on this same topic. (Grandpa does wish stormfriend be a bit more low key, but that won't happen anytime soon...) Pete had linked two very good leadership articles, and these children commented on them, stating how; as lone wolves, they would so attrit the enemy... blah blah blah. Listen, Rambo was a movie. As a loner, you are nothing but a target - or a victim. Despite Grandpa urging me to stay out of it; I had to respond because that is the kind of keyboard b.s. that gets good people dead. Lone sheep are staked out to bring wolves into the open, so lions can kill them. Period. If your plan is to get through the coming excitement alone, then you plan to fail. There is no "one man" scenario where "you win". One of these clowns at WRSA presents himself as successful, and acts as if the average, or even above average; U.S. boot infantryman is superior to most civilians... from Nam to now, I call bullshit on that. And even more so now because there are a lot of guys in my A.O. who've never seen combat, but hit the gym - or Krav Maga - 3 to 5 times a week, who would knock the living fuck out of some of these boys today. And, most of the killers are my age or close to it. But not one of us can stay awake 24/7/365. Or, treat a wound on our back... or tend the garden, help around the camp, etc.; while running and gunning. That mindset that believes otherwise is called "stupidity". Our tribe is 3 Marines, 1 army vet from armor, 1 British SAS, 1 Army Colonel (we call him Colonel, lol) a USAF SpecOps man, a Navy corpsman with combat experience, and a USCG pararescue frog. And we all agree - no lone rangers on this upcoming OP. And this is who we've hooked up with so far. And yes, brother Lineman, we're all moving as a unit... and you know where. Kids, listen, Grandpa will only say this once... K has told you "tribe". For God's sake, if you won't listen to your betters, listen to your elders... stormfriend sends....
What gets me is the fact that Lineman has offered to help anyone who's interested to make the move to the redoubt-I've talked to him on the phone,and exchanged e-mails. Everyone must be squared away,have tribe,have everything they need where they are-because as far as I know-very few people have replied to Lineman about relocating. I'm one of the few-and due to an issue beyond my control,one of our daughters and her toddler had to move in with us. Until the daughter and her child are squared away,we aren't moving. Kids come first-even when they're adults. You have to have a solid group of people around you-a tribe is just like a big family,all working together for the good of the family. No one is going to make it alone for long. We all need others around us to make when things get sporty. Everyone should be working on building tribe,making connections,getting shit squared away. I'm making connections,meeting new people,and building tribe-and that's what every one of us needs to be doing-now.
No for the most part people are alone or just a few allies...The hard part for most is the fear of the unknown...Not many people can uproot themselves from what they have always known and move somewhere where everything is new...Look at history it was only the bold and the brave that opened up the west...Most just stayed put even if they had it rough...People that stayed also hated those who went and mocked them that they would fail...All because of their own fears and failings...People would rather not get outside of their comfort zone even if it might save their lives in the long run...It is what it is though and all we do is keep building and so when people do wake up they will have someplace to turn too...
We live in the country on a defendable piece of land altogether about 150 acres. If you factor in sleep, farming, protection of livestock and property and water procurement, I figure around 30 or so people are needed. I talk to alot of well intentioned people who plan to hunker down in their country homes with their spouses and one or two siblings. You should see the look on their faces when I ask who's going to watch the perimeter while they sleep or attend to the wound they get chopping wood to boil their water with. Takes alot of people.
Oh, yeah. There is that little thing called infrastructure that nobody ever seems to think about. Latrines, water, shelter, mess facility, etc. to accommodate the tribe, NPT, militia unit.
Yes, numbers are important. Necessary even. But you have to think about what happens when you put a large numbers of people into a limited area. Camp conditions can kill your people just as quickly as the enemy.
The land is half owned and half leased by two cattle farmers. They let me roam around and I keep an eye on the cattle and run off the coyotes in return. As i walk it I'm always looking for good areas for living, water collection, locations for perimeter watch and the like. I figure that if you want to keep people from getting on each other's nerves then there has to be some space. Even with shit going sideways people will need some type of privacy at times. One thing that occurs to me is that even if we train and plan , there's no telling how we're actually going to handle it. Not everyone has been in the military and those who are newer, such as myself, have grown up working 40-60 hours a week, making house payments, working on our favorite cars and so forth. It might take good, valuable people some time and space to get adjusted to living a different way. Just my observation.
So you live on it or your planning on living on it if something happens... Why I ask is like OP says you need to have your infrastructure already on it before something happens...Adding to what he said you have to have your gardens ready, fields ready, any fruit and nut trees in, alternative energy set up, defensive areas laid out and dug in, your comms up and running, means of preserving your food, medical facilities set up and stocked, your lake stocked with fish, (diesel,gas,kerosene, propane stocked up if your planning on using any implements to help with farming), sandbags lots of sandbags, stock up on lye, lime, salt and mineral blocks, etc...
We rent a house on one acre smack in the middle. The rest is woods and cattle pastures. I'm in a weird position because I pretty much have free rein within reason but it isn't mine. There are two ponds with fish and several small streams. I can't really put up defense positions until things go sideways but much of the wooded area is terrained in such a was that it wouldn't be hard to do. I have some gardening started and try to keep 1200 gallons of water on hand in 300 gallon totes. Not owning throws a wrench into things but im doing what I can. Tribing up is a little difficult it seems, alot of trust issues and so forth.
Yea tribing up will always be difficult and even more so if you don't own the land your planning on gathering on if something happens...The people you rent from are they going to be part of your tribe or are you going to have negotiate some agreement after something happens?...Nothing worse than having to negotiate from a position of weakness by you having no claim on the land unless you had a 100 year lease or something of that sort...Are you tied to that location or are you mobile that if a better opportunity presented itself you could go?
To be honest, I'm set up to be totally mobile in a matter of hours if need be. We are trying to make the best of where we're at. If we meet others who are blessed with a good location then we can reassess our situation. Until then I just hope to make the best of where we are. Our landlord is actually pretty clueless, but the cattle farmers will throw their support if I take care care of some of their livestock. Within about a two mile radius is other cattle farmers, some poultry folks and straight up farmers. If people are smart we would all kinda look out for each other, but I gave up on people using their heads a while back.
I've been pondering that. A southeast location would be nice ya know. I have no problem selling what I don't need but the wife has two sons who are rooted down. Took the mustang on a mountain run a few weeks back up to the blue ridge mountains. Alot of unpopulated land up there it looks like. Just sayin...
A Tribe is necessary if you want to survive the unpleasantness that is about to hit the fan. I am part of “ no I belong to” a Tribe. This Tribe is a collection of Families, Clans and Individuals and we are lead by our Elders.
Membership in a Tribe can be bitter medicine at times for you may just have to give up your individual ideas for the safety of the Tribe as a whole.
That is exactly what befell me when the Elders came to me and asked me to stop writing and publishing in a public venue using my name. They were not against what I wrote, my ideas or even the need I felt to write. Their argument was that I am bring attention to myself, being a woman alone in this world and that if I was targeted, the men of my Tribe would naturally feel it to be their duty to defend me.
The Elders said they considered my right to speak against the safety of the Tribe and asked me to discontinue publishing my writing. I have had to make a lot of hard decisions in my life and this one is near the top. In the end it wasn't hard to be in agreement with the Elders. One of the main reasons for my being in a Tribe was for protection and too continue to bring attention to myself could endanger others. Sometimes you might just have to bend a little for your tribe, it's worth it for being alone is a death sentence.
Just an aside, I always felt that I must use my real name when I published my writing because my writings were of what I felt.
From Brock: Showdown - State Reps Rally to Stop VA-Ordered Gun Confiscation of Vietnam Vet Idaho State Representative Heather Scott, who first brought attention to the issue Thursday morning, stated that the veteran had issued a plea for help after the VA determined him unable to own firearms following a minor stroke.
I had a chance to meet and greet with Prepping Preacher in our respective AO a few weeks back, but other than the two of us I don't know if there's anyone else around here that see things the way we do. A move may be in order when my lease is up.
I raised the ire (and wrinkled the pampers...) of a poser on WRSA just yesterday - or early this morning - on this same topic. (Grandpa does wish stormfriend be a bit more low key, but that won't happen anytime soon...) Pete had linked two very good leadership articles, and these children commented on them, stating how; as lone wolves, they would so attrit the enemy... blah blah blah. Listen, Rambo was a movie. As a loner, you are nothing but a target - or a victim. Despite Grandpa urging me to stay out of it; I had to respond because that is the kind of keyboard b.s. that gets good people dead. Lone sheep are staked out to bring wolves into the open, so lions can kill them. Period. If your plan is to get through the coming excitement alone, then you plan to fail. There is no "one man" scenario where "you win". One of these clowns at WRSA presents himself as successful, and acts as if the average, or even above average; U.S. boot infantryman is superior to most civilians... from Nam to now, I call bullshit on that. And even more so now because there are a lot of guys in my A.O. who've never seen combat, but hit the gym - or Krav Maga - 3 to 5 times a week, who would knock the living fuck out of some of these boys today. And, most of the killers are my age or close to it.
ReplyDeleteBut not one of us can stay awake 24/7/365. Or, treat a wound on our back... or tend the garden, help around the camp, etc.; while running and gunning. That mindset that believes otherwise is called "stupidity". Our tribe is 3 Marines, 1 army vet from armor, 1 British SAS, 1 Army Colonel (we call him Colonel, lol) a USAF SpecOps man, a Navy corpsman with combat experience, and a USCG pararescue frog. And we all agree - no lone rangers on this upcoming OP. And this is who we've hooked up with so far. And yes, brother Lineman, we're all moving as a unit... and you know where.
Kids, listen, Grandpa will only say this once... K has told you "tribe". For God's sake, if you won't listen to your betters, listen to your elders...
stormfriend sends....
What gets me is the fact that Lineman has offered to help anyone who's interested to make the move to the redoubt-I've talked to him on the phone,and exchanged e-mails.
DeleteEveryone must be squared away,have tribe,have everything they need where they are-because as far as I know-very few people have replied to Lineman about relocating.
I'm one of the few-and due to an issue beyond my control,one of our daughters and her toddler had to move in with us.
Until the daughter and her child are squared away,we aren't moving.
Kids come first-even when they're adults.
You have to have a solid group of people around you-a tribe is just like a big family,all working together for the good of the family.
No one is going to make it alone for long.
We all need others around us to make when things get sporty.
Everyone should be working on building tribe,making connections,getting shit squared away.
I'm making connections,meeting new people,and building tribe-and that's what every one of us needs to be doing-now.
No for the most part people are alone or just a few allies...The hard part for most is the fear of the unknown...Not many people can uproot themselves from what they have always known and move somewhere where everything is new...Look at history it was only the bold and the brave that opened up the west...Most just stayed put even if they had it rough...People that stayed also hated those who went and mocked them that they would fail...All because of their own fears and failings...People would rather not get outside of their comfort zone even if it might save their lives in the long run...It is what it is though and all we do is keep building and so when people do wake up they will have someplace to turn too...
DeleteWe live in the country on a defendable piece of land altogether about 150 acres. If you factor in sleep, farming, protection of livestock and property and water procurement, I figure around 30 or so people are needed. I talk to alot of well intentioned people who plan to hunker down in their country homes with their spouses and one or two siblings. You should see the look on their faces when I ask who's going to watch the perimeter while they sleep or attend to the wound they get chopping wood to boil their water with. Takes alot of people.
ReplyDelete150 acres? With just a platoon? Better recalc. I would be thinking company strength or better. :-)
DeleteThat would be nice. I would have to count cattle every couple of hours or the place would probably smell like a Texas Roadhouse!
DeleteOh, yeah. There is that little thing called infrastructure that nobody ever seems to think about. Latrines, water, shelter, mess facility, etc. to accommodate the tribe, NPT, militia unit.
DeleteYes, numbers are important. Necessary even. But you have to think about what happens when you put a large numbers of people into a limited area. Camp conditions can kill your people just as quickly as the enemy.
The land is half owned and half leased by two cattle farmers. They let me roam around and I keep an eye on the cattle and run off the coyotes in return. As i walk it I'm always looking for good areas for living, water collection, locations for perimeter watch and the like. I figure that if you want to keep people from getting on each other's nerves then there has to be some space. Even with shit going sideways people will need some type of privacy at times.
DeleteOne thing that occurs to me is that even if we train and plan , there's no telling how we're actually going to handle it. Not everyone has been in the military and those who are newer, such as myself, have grown up working 40-60 hours a week, making house payments, working on our favorite cars and so forth. It might take good, valuable people some time and space to get adjusted to living a different way. Just my observation.
So you live on it or your planning on living on it if something happens... Why I ask is like OP says you need to have your infrastructure already on it before something happens...Adding to what he said you have to have your gardens ready, fields ready, any fruit and nut trees in, alternative energy set up, defensive areas laid out and dug in, your comms up and running, means of preserving your food, medical facilities set up and stocked, your lake stocked with fish, (diesel,gas,kerosene, propane stocked up if your planning on using any implements to help with farming), sandbags lots of sandbags, stock up on lye, lime, salt and mineral blocks, etc...
DeleteWe rent a house on one acre smack in the middle. The rest is woods and cattle pastures. I'm in a weird position because I pretty much have free rein within reason but it isn't mine. There are two ponds with fish and several small streams. I can't really put up defense positions until things go sideways but much of the wooded area is terrained in such a was that it wouldn't be hard to do. I have some gardening started and try to keep 1200 gallons of water on hand in 300 gallon totes.
DeleteNot owning throws a wrench into things but im doing what I can. Tribing up is a little difficult it seems, alot of trust issues and so forth.
Yea tribing up will always be difficult and even more so if you don't own the land your planning on gathering on if something happens...The people you rent from are they going to be part of your tribe or are you going to have negotiate some agreement after something happens?...Nothing worse than having to negotiate from a position of weakness by you having no claim on the land unless you had a 100 year lease or something of that sort...Are you tied to that location or are you mobile that if a better opportunity presented itself you could go?
DeleteTo be honest, I'm set up to be totally mobile in a matter of hours if need be. We are trying to make the best of where we're at. If we meet others who are blessed with a good location then we can reassess our situation. Until then I just hope to make the best of where we are. Our landlord is actually pretty clueless, but the cattle farmers will throw their support if I take care care of some of their livestock. Within about a two mile radius is other cattle farmers, some poultry folks and straight up farmers. If people are smart we would all kinda look out for each other, but I gave up on people using their heads a while back.
DeleteWe do what we can do right;) If you ever want info on the redoubt K knows where to send your email too;)
DeleteI've been pondering that. A southeast location would be nice ya know. I have no problem selling what I don't need but the wife has two sons who are rooted down. Took the mustang on a mountain run a few weeks back up to the blue ridge mountains. Alot of unpopulated land up there it looks like. Just sayin...
DeleteA Tribe is necessary if you want to survive the unpleasantness that is about to hit the fan. I am part of “ no I belong to” a Tribe. This Tribe is a collection of Families, Clans and Individuals and we are lead by our Elders.
ReplyDeleteMembership in a Tribe can be bitter medicine at times for you may just have to give up your individual ideas for the safety of the Tribe as a whole.
That is exactly what befell me when the Elders came to me and asked me to stop writing and publishing in a public venue using my name. They were not against what I wrote, my ideas or even the need I felt to write. Their argument was that I am bring attention to myself, being a woman alone in this world and that if I was targeted, the men of my Tribe would naturally feel it to be their duty to defend me.
The Elders said they considered my right to speak against the safety of the Tribe and asked me to discontinue publishing my writing. I have had to make a lot of hard decisions in my life and this one is near the top. In the end it wasn't hard to be in agreement with the Elders. One of the main reasons for my being in a Tribe was for protection and too continue to bring attention to myself could endanger others. Sometimes you might just have to bend a little for your tribe, it's worth it for being alone is a death sentence.
Just an aside, I always felt that I must use my real name when I published my writing because my writings were of what I felt.
Well, there is no tribe around here nor people. Some of us just have to go it alone for as long as we can.
ReplyDeleteWhere are you?
DeleteFrom Brock: Showdown - State Reps Rally to Stop VA-Ordered Gun Confiscation of Vietnam Vet
ReplyDeleteIdaho State Representative Heather Scott, who first brought attention to the issue Thursday morning, stated that the veteran had issued a plea for help after the VA determined him unable to own firearms following a minor stroke.
Jack Hinson.
ReplyDeleteI had a chance to meet and greet with Prepping Preacher in our respective AO a few weeks back, but other than the two of us I don't know if there's anyone else around here that see things the way we do. A move may be in order when my lease is up.
ReplyDelete3 men made up the average Jedburgh Team - and if you have met PP, you know he is more than able of carrying his weight. ;)
DeleteUpdate: hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IDAHO_VETERAN_GUN_PROTEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-08-06-19-54-26
ReplyDeleteAug 6, 7:54 PM EDT
Gun-confiscation fears lead to protest in northern Idaho
Website with livestream recording
ReplyDeleteof yesterday's protest: www.periscope.tv/w/aJOvdTEwNDUyNDcyfDU1MzMyMzQ4QcX0LYxBgzobVMBBqJqSV9sIh_Prcwj6zs-69pgxGQ0=