I picked up that phrase at WeaponsMan today.
Here's the post.
I'm going to have to consider that phrase a bit. How many "Patriots" do you know who are accepting a .gov check? Whether payroll or "disability" or otherwise...
Regarding the actual WeaponsMan post and TSA: They are the Farm Team. Soon enough they will be issued weapons by their Masters.
K
Be careful on the broad brush....just sayin'
ReplyDelete.mil disabilities are entitled to anything they need (far more than they actually receive), and everyone is entitled to every penny they have ever put into the system.
DeleteBut the parasites who take more than they have paid, especially those who take more than they have paid, and then claim to be "different" from the redistribution folks - well...
I hear you....there's a lot of .mil who were retired after a life of honorable service, too....they fulfilled their part of the bargain, no matter what .gov was lying about.
DeleteI also know of folks who currently gamed the system to be categorized as 'unable to work' and therefore receive full disability from the state and fed gov.
They are beneath contempt, and when FREEFOR wins the day and goes through the available records, should be tried (and hopefully convicted) of fraud and serve the maximum penalty the jury decides.
Again, just sayin'....
I think we're on the same page. When I was young .mil promised lifetime medical and retirement for X service, when I was looking into attending one of the .mil academies. I think it was by the Clinton 90's that .gov began to simply re-write the rules and screw the folks who had signed in good faith for X, and were now only entitled to Y.
DeleteThere was a fellow I recently met who was retired/disabled career Navy man. He was a huge strapping fellow who looked healthy as a horse to me. He seemed nice enough at first and we seemed to have some common interest (he told me he wasn't a "sniper", but had been to sniper school and showed me some things that actually convinced me of this). After getting to know him a little, he asked me for a job and wanted to know if I could pay him cash. He said this was to avoid messing up his "disability". I really didn't need anyone at the time and became suspicious of the man. I ran into two months later and he was wearing all this "tacticool" garb and I asked him what was up with the "uniform". He informed me he had taken a job with the local sheriff's department. I had to wonder if they were paying him cash.
ReplyDeleteThat's good. :)
DeleteANYONE who takes the fruits of MY labor without my consent is a thief. We are entitled to nothing but what we work for and earn. If YOU did not earn something but received something, then you are part of the problem.
ReplyDeleteMany people where promised things from the government or their companies knowing full well that eventually the tit would run dry. A bird in the hand. But, but, but.... No one else is responsible for you, but you. Any form of that thinking is destructive and turns into what we have today. Entitled.
I get so sick of hearing people say, but I worked my whole life for this and now what do I do. Guess they should have thought of that before. Individualism or the collective.
Mike M.
Hi Mike. I have an email from you I still need to answer, as soon as we know our route I'll let you know for certain.
DeleteStay safe.
K
It's called crazy money, it's easy to get. Say that you here voices and bingo, your in. Got a disfigured arm, missing a leg or something real like that, it takes years.Disability is a control thing, oh you take what kind of pain pills?Son you can't have a gun. Similar to getting a felony, if you take the guilty plea you get off with a slap and a fine. But if you fight it and lose...Son you can't have a gun, It's all about the control.We have a BOR that says we can own guns, we have a system that say's 101 ways that you can't. Want a check from the gov?Well we will give you the money son...You give us your rights. Works like that.
ReplyDeleteI have worked and played HARD all my life. I am down to being able to only work a part time job. Even with my outstanding background, most employers will not consider me with my limp, my cane and my medications. If you want to cast aspersions, walk a week in my shoes and then tell me about it. I am a prepper, a shooter and yes, I have been trying to get disability. For over 3.5 years now. The system is filled with youngster that have never worked a day in their life, immigrants that cannot speak our language, women that view children as a way of getting a paycheck. Do not tar me with your wide ranging brush. I am will to help the patriot movement any way I can. I have not surrendered any rights and will not do so. Call me a thief? Anonymous, am I a thief? Say it to my face.
ReplyDeleteDean: Most of us agree that you are entitled to every penny you have ever put into the system, whether they call it "disability" or simply a refund. And the people you mention who have never worked, the lazy young and the illegals, the mothers who see kids as paychecks - they are the parasites and thieves.
DeleteI added your blog to the blogroll.
K
K,
DeleteI'm going to have to stand with Dean on this one. No one wants the sob story but with out disability I'd be in a tent or dead. Does it matter, taking the 'red pill', prepping, learning, training as able? Still can't spar or carry a load. I still vote for the 'other guy', hell I wrote in Allen West. Lost a marriage over these politics, lost the home business and I still try to preach and teach.
Folks want to use a broad brush but I know the road I advocate is a personal death sentence. I had to be amused with Max, 'moving with a full load tactically in the woods is hard'. Getting out of a wheelchair and learning to carry a rifle again is hard.
So those who advocate culling, be sure of your ground and walk that mile in Dean's shoes.
I think we have a lot to offer regardless of how we arrive.
Adam
Absolutely - genuine disabilities are acceptable in my book. I hate the method in place - your only real recourse is to turn to .gov, because they have deliberately killed private charity that worked much, much better in previous generations.
DeletePeople with genuine disabilities get a pass in my book, that is not parasitic intentionally - it is simply that because of the way Bad People have manipulated the system, that is your only place to go.
When we fix that, private charity will again begin - Americans are a generous people - and I dare say private charity would help genuinely disabled folks much, much more than any .gov "help".
Stay safe.
K
Just a quick thought with regard to this topic. I expect I will take some heat as well. The only people to receive any government disability or medical assistance are those that need it as a result of participation in combat operations in defense of the country. Period. Everybody else needs to rely on their family, church, or individual/organized charity. Sorry. Anything else is subject to fraud and degenerates into theft of people working their asses off to take care of themselves.
ReplyDeleteThat is how I feel. I have been in so many discussions with many Veterans who are gaming the system. When I was a kid a disabled person was disabled(completely). Know its a race to milk the tit before it runs dry.
DeleteOnce the leviathon consumes itself. We will see charity from those who have more than they need reach a new level. I will gladly help those in real need, but I want the choice in doing so.
Mike M.
Forgot about one thing. Free market options. You know, like buy your own disability insurance.
DeleteYa think? Makes sense. Here's the bad news---it's too late.
DeleteWhen everyone was yapping about "the tipping point" a couple years back, I was the first to identify when the tipping point was already past; check the record. Now, everyone with half a wit knows it.
I'll do it again, and here's as good as anywhere. Lots of people are waking up every day, and there's gonna be a ton of trouble when they're cold and hungry. So something's gotta be done, and quickly. The most dangerous thing to the World Regime is all this "liberty" talk and it MUST be stopped, before all those angry people with guns start figurin' out what they gotta do.
So try to stop it they will, and soon. How? That's easy, since how do thugs do anything? Think Kristallnacht, only this time you, and almost everyone here, will be the Jew. "Chosen people," heh. There's your beloved collective; how ya like it now?
You may not like my philosophy Alan, but one of my gifts is understanding how other people think. I can't give you the exact date, but I know how this shit is done. They practiced for years here in Michigan with multi-county "sweeps." And that's what it'll be---a "sweep" on a single night, two at the most, to clean up this country of all who dare imagine that they shouldn't be ruled. Once and for all. It's always "for all," isn't it? Hell, even you agree with that.
That's how you stop sheeple from bleating, so that's what'll be done. You see, the Enemy doesn't want it to get past THEIR tipping point. It ain't rocket science; even a simpleton like me can see it.
You heard it here first and you can count on it. I'm broke and sick, so I figure to be dead regardless. But if you wanna save your ass(es), then you'd better muster up in one form or another, and soon.
That's my gift to you, Alan; now you owe me two beers. Lucky you...you can pay me in Heaven.
A good thing about Patriots that get a .gov check is the fact that those checks will be used to turn the tables on the .gov via arms and ammo purchases, patriot contributions, training, preps and education. If the government offices will ever recognize my infirmities my .gov checks will revive my prepping and training.
ReplyDeleteYou're assuming those checks will continue to show up in the event of a civil war. Really? You might wanna rethink that. It seems you're just trying to justify the check. To date I have not read or heard from any source the possibility of government checks funding FreeFor operations to any extent. Mike Vanderboegh is the only other guy I know that has made a case for receiving benefits. And let's be clear on this. Just about everybody has paid into this abomination. What is important to keep in mind is once you collect more than you paid in, the rest you receive ain't yours.
DeleteSo, collect your check. I bear no animosity unlike you. What I am saying is that one of the things I will be fighting for is an end to taking money from someone without their explicit consent and giving it to another no matter what the reason may be. We're either free or we're not free. The understanding that life just ain't fucking fair is also required along with the notion that no one has the right to try and make it so.
At the end of the day? Gotta win a war first.
Now this guy gets it. So many people want to say they are for liberty, but in reality they just want what they consider liberty. Liberty, real liberty is beautiful and scary.
DeleteMike M.
Mullenaxe, wake up. I have been refused insurance for years. I have paid for my medical expenses out of pocket. So much for the free market. I am now down to part time work and many are these days. Pay that leave no room for any healthcare. I have been in the oilfield and the construction industries since I was 19 years old. From 14 to 18 I had my own hay business. Once again I invite those that share the view point of Mullenaxe to walk a week in my shoes, spend a month in my newest income bracket. See what your outlook is then. S Anonymous said no matter how we get to the fight at least we show up. Whether it's a static war or a guerrilla war, cooks, clerks, trainers, intel, agents and coms are always in need. And don't forget the ones that will conceal and fund the operators when the time comes. If you are that operator, will you refuse shelter, food, medical care, or transportation if it is funded by a .gov check?
ReplyDeleteMy wife collects Disability (big gasp out there) for her ailments. I would rather she didn't but it wasn't my decision to make - we hadn't met yet.
ReplyDeleteWe're talking about a woman that worked her entire life from age 16 until she simply couldn't anymore, raised 2 children and a worthless husband and never collected a dime of welfare or resorted to food stamps.
For those that wonder, she has fibromyalgia, a bad back and is nearly blind.
Trust me, if we could afford to live without her disability check, both of us would have no problem giving it up.
On the other hand I know people that collect SSI for their drug or alcohol addiction - they can't work because of their 'disease' so the government gives them money so they can continue their drug or alcohol abuse.
That's the difference between legitimate checks and parasites - she paid in since she started working - that's her money. Additionally, you've been paying in for who knows how many years, that you'll probably never get back - so if it comes back into the house, even under her name, it is money your family had stolen over the years.
DeleteAnd the parasites who have an "addiction" and collect SSI or whatever - they deserve to suck a poisoned teat.
K