You call yourselves III?
You claim to have the backs of your fellow Patriots when SHTF?
You claim you will protect your Tribe in bloody violence?
For a few of the "Elders" in the III community, you have watched a few people deliberately try to sabotage genuine, strategic and tangible work of your fellow III Patriots, and attack the III as a group. You have watched people like Justin (His New Holiness Arctic Patriot) and MBV post and comment obvious lies and unsupported vile assertions, and not a peep.
More than 40 III Patriots pooled together to build something in the III name - how many of you "Elders", whether bloggers or merely respected Commenters, whether III or merely "Patriots" have written a single word to defend your own, or at least demand evidence of assertions? How many of you have policed your own? How many of you have publicly demanded that those making assertions show their math? How many of you have publicly shunned the attackers, their facilitators and puppeteers?
Don't bother writing about any of it now. Every single person in this "Community" has revealed himself in these last weeks, and you can bet people have taken notes. This has nothing to do with Kerodin - this has to do with 40+ III Patriots who found themselves standing alone on the Green, under fire that had the potential of real-world harm, without a single "Elder" daring to speak out.
Bill Nye refuses the III tags, and he has posted more to defend your fellow III Patriots and reveal truth than many who wear the patches and fly the flags and banners. And for the very few others who are not among the 40+ who did speak up, I thank you. I saw how you were shouted down by strawman arguments and gratuitous assertions, and the "Elders" were there in silence.
"Elders": Think about that the next time you write about covering your fellow Patriots in a real SHTF world.
Kerodin
III
Men of character
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Who will stand with us
Where have these fights been taking place? Have not been to sipsey since MBV spit on us. Last I heard of Justin he started a gospel site. I need to go recheck all Bills posts.
ReplyDeleteAnother example of why people hate the internet, a broken tool.
As stated at the Steel Ibeam, I was done with these "school yard blues" awhile ago. I dont have time for it. But I can tell you what I do have time for and that is to make III Arms a success. I do not want to create or be a part of any more mindless banter with anyone as it does nothing more than slow me down as well as the banter is not a good light to paint with a new company that is in its infant stages. We must continue to go forth and keep our true heading. If we continue to try and put out the fires that keep popping up, eventually our ranks will be spread out and depleated. Lately I havent had much time to look at any other sites than the ones that deal primarily with III Arms. On a personal level it's been a hectic week and I am not in a good place right now, however I intend to remain as positive as I am able in regards to III Arms as well as my fellow Patriots.
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Thanks, Israel.
DeleteIf there is any way I can help on the personal front, zip me an email.
III Arms and the Citadel are going to take care of themselves. As Jim Klein said a while ago (I'm paraphrasing): We'd have to work pretty hard to screw this up at this point, because too many good people are involved.
K
Sam, Thank you sir I appreciate your offer. Some day when things slow down I will send ya an email with some insight. I will keep my train on track to the best of my ability, but we are only human right? Thank you for your support.
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Israel
Hey Sam, I mirror Sandman369's question...where were these arguments/attacks taking place? I don't recall reading anything (in any posting or posts' comments) until your "summary of action" post. Now, maybe it's my fault and I didn't see the comments or posts this is all about. I keep up with all the III 'sites (except for Facebook, as I have no account with those socialists) whenever I have access to the 'net. I don't recall seeing these attacks since my return to the 'net 2 weeks ago. If they WERE on a III site, then sorry for my oversight, and I'll try and be more diligent in the future. IF, on the other hand, these attacks happened on some other website, then here's what I have to say about that:
ReplyDeleteYOU need to reflect on this post you made, and dial down YOUR attack and inferences against the Founders/Elders. As one of the Founders of III Arms and therefore I assume one of the "Elders" you take to task, I've got better things to do than run around the 'net reading every little limp-dick self-professed "Patriot's" site that does (or may) belittle our endeavors. Fuck 'em. Let them piss and moan. When the SHTF, they're dead, and we, The III, will live on. You're casting stones and shooting arrows at those that took the big step to start the III moving forward from just being another Patriot blog, to an actual reality. That's fucked up, man. YOU fucked up.
That's my two cents, and I'm certain others out there in the III think your post here was a.o.k. and they disagree with me. That's fine too....rightful liberty, right? But I don't like your inferences that I lack commitment or willingness to stand by my brothers and sisters in the III.
I have plenty more to say, and alot of it even inflammatory, but I'm not going to trot it out. It would serve no purpose but to piss you off (as you have done to me) and make you feel I'm challenging you and attacking you, and you'd end up issuing me that invitation to some street corner anywhere in the world. Big difference is...I would show up, and I don't believe in fair fights.
So, in summary, I think a little reflection is due on your part. Or, you can tell me to kiss your ass. Whichever. Won't change me or my commitment to the III.
Matthäus: You misunderstood my post. I was not calling out the Founders, I was calling out the rest of the III for not coming to the defense of the Founders.
DeleteAnd I'm not surprised you missed the attacks - they came from two insignificant bloggers known to very few III Patriots.
K
Sam, understand. My bad....I'm old and socially challenged, so I can often be counted upon to say "Huh, what?" at least 5 times a day. Probably why I'm twice-divorced!! In future, if some bottom-feeder decides to start shit slinging, send out a clarion call to the III so we CAN rally around the Tribe. ANYONE on the III calls for help, I'll do whatever I can and provide all that I can. Hope we're cool (wasn't looking forward to having my ass handed to me on a street corner somewhere). 8-)
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"And I'm not surprised you missed the attacks - they came from two insignificant bloggers known to very few III Patriots."
ReplyDeleteSam...I think this is a big reason why a rousing defensive action wasn't mounted immediately.
I'll speak for myself only, but I had no earthly idea what the hell was going on until last night when Bill Nye posted the inside scoop.
I knew something was funky a few days ago when BonnieGadsden posted "grigoryrasputin: Shit Somewhere Else," but BG didn't elaborate.
When you posted over at your old place, I was like, "WTF is this about?"
But I figured you had shit covered from the sound of things, and that's when I posted my "threatening" guttin' comment.
To me, it seems silly to have an intardnets tiff with 'tards.
You, me, everybody...have better and more productive things to do.
The country is being purposely flushed down a shit-hole.
Fuck Big Bird.
I was afraid too many genuine allies would think I was talking about them, when I chose not to list any names at all.
DeleteYou showed up, spoke your mind in a way that had both me and Holly in full laughter. ;)
This post is definitely not intended for any blogger out there who is daily showing support for the efforts of the Founders of III Arms.
I'm just frustrated by bloggers and commenters who constantly call for unity, and when we actually have some unity building (like the Founders and supporters of III Arms and the Citadel) and that unity is attacked by Vanderboegh, AP and others, those Founders and supporters are left on their own. And in this particular matter, more than 40 III families stood to lose money because of Vanderboegh, Justin, Firestone, King (those two nobody knows) and there was no support from all of the "Tough Talkers" who constantly post and comment.
Next time I'll just have to man-up and name names so my allies do not think I am talking about them. ;)
K
Yeah! Man-up, ya big pussy.
ReplyDeleteAh hell...now I've gone and done it.
Wife and kids are gonna hate seeing me field-dressed and hangin' from a tree in the front yard.
Fuzzy & Zoomie: You two represent EXACTLY the kind of Patriots for whom I will fight and die.
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Walter, Kerodin wouldn't field dress and hang ya from a tree, he'd put ya in a big bird suit and tie you to a tree for a week or so.
ReplyDeleteI also missed the start of this, my mistake, I'll be more observant in the future.
So can anyone tell me why I should trust a man who was caught in extortion of others...
ReplyDeleteAnon: Trust me or not, that is your choice. But when it comes to III Arms or the Citadel, I am not the man to be trusted, anyway.
DeleteThe list of people who call me bad names:
The United States Government
Arctic Patriot
Mike Vanderboegh
Mark D. Firestone
Carol Jane King
One former employee
If a man can be defined by his enemies, I'll die happy with that list.
By the way, next time post with your name, as I do, or don't bother.
Kerodin
III
Isn't that what the Citadel is all about.. Isn't it about having trust and faith in your brethren in arms to stand beside you when the chips are down...I don't know anything about your past other than what I could find when I Googled you...I am just like everyone else will be when they come across your site for the first time...It seems to me that your a main driver so wanted to know your background before I jumped in with both feet..I'm just a country boy that doesn't know how to get my name on my post...Its Al Snow and my email is powerlineman01@Hotmail.com...I like your ideas and concepts and I just wanted to make sure this wasn't a scam to to my hard earned dollar...
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Al, fair enough. Sorry if I seemed snippy in my reply, as you can imagine I keep my guard up these days and I can be quick to strike.
DeleteI would encourage you to watch IIICitadel.blogspot.com where you'll find many others who are involved. When the Citadel is ready to begin accepting money, it will be to a legal company and once Leases begin, the money will go into an Escrow account, controlled by an attorney.
But in all honesty, the success of the Citadel is hinged entirely upon the success or failure of III Arms (the company begun by many III Patriots that is intended to finance much of the Citadel). You can watch that blog at: IIIArms.blogspot.com
So, at the moment, all eyes are on November 6th when III Arms begins accepting orders. If orders are good, the Citadel looks good. But if III Arms doesn't earn customers, the Citadel will not make it. So, no Citadel money will be collected until everyone has an idea of what happens on Nov. 6th.
Best,
K